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GoldWampum 04-26-2009 04:26 PM

AR-15 Lower Receivers
 
$135 deal, brand new. Manufactured by Florida Arms Manufacturing Company. I'm not well schooled in AR-15. Is this a good, average or bad deal?

Thanks for the help.

bwelkk 04-26-2009 04:26 PM

Re: AR-15 Lower Receivers
 
Stripped or complete?

meatman 04-26-2009 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1695180)
$135 deal, brand new. Manufactured by Florida Arms Manufacturing Company. I'm not well schooled in AR-15. Is this a good, average or bad deal?

Thanks for the help.

Good deal :yes:

GoldWampum 04-26-2009 06:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1695215)
Good deal :yes:

Thought so but thought I'd get opinions. Thanks.

welk, it's the whole lower receiver if that is what you are asking.

gangsta99 04-26-2009 08:09 PM

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It is a stripped receiver. Does not include the lower kit which is your springs and whatnots.

tanner12oz 04-26-2009 08:40 PM

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good deal....lowers are the easy part right now! parts kits are few and far between and complete uppers are close to impossible...if im wrong come out and tell me cuz i check places a few times a day to try to get one of the 5 uppers that come in a month

gangsta99 04-26-2009 08:44 PM

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Part kits are impossible, now if you know someone in the industry you can get complete uppers a couple times a month, if you don't know someone it will take a miracle.

St. Germain 04-26-2009 08:45 PM

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Good deal, buy it and throw it in the safe.

tanner12oz 04-26-2009 08:49 PM

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there are waiting lists that are like 6 months long for uppers...honestly i dont think people are gonna get there stuff in 6 months. im on some waiting lists but constantly trying to speed the process by scoring stuff as it comes in. whats the timetable for the new AWB to come through? i think we might have a year....then again it could last until the next term when he doesnt have anything to play for.

CyberGold 04-27-2009 08:17 AM

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Thats a pretty good price for a stripped lower - I paif 150 for one a couple weeks ago and at the Phoenix show this weekend they were 170.
The nice thing about a new stripped lower is that you can build a pistol out of it - but document it heavily while you do. buy and stash - then get the internals as available. The upper will be the $$$ item

meatman 04-27-2009 12:27 PM

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Got theses for $125 each

http://meatman.smugmug.com/photos/50...8_rQMst-XL.jpg

meatman 04-27-2009 12:28 PM

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But then sold them for $189 each a week later

mtnman 04-27-2009 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1695460)
whats the timetable for the new AWB to come through? i think we might have a year....then again it could last until the next term when he doesnt have anything to play for.

Shortly after the elections in 2010 is when we'll see the next AWB. The dems learned their lesson after the last AWB when they lost so many seats in the senate. They won't push until AFTER the 2010 elections.

TTAZZMAN 04-27-2009 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1695180)
$135 deal, brand new. Manufactured by Florida Arms Manufacturing Company. I'm not well schooled in AR-15. Is this a good, average or bad deal?

Thanks for the help.

$135 sounds good to me for a MilSpec Forged bare lower with a good finish

the #1 key to me is to make sure the lowers are Forged/Milspec

Speaking of lowers.....anyone know where i can come up with a Titanium ar lower?

Mr Whales 04-27-2009 06:03 PM

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The nice thing about a new stripped lower is that you can build a pistol out of it - but document it heavily while you do.
You might want to check on that. From what I have read in order to build a pistol on the lower it MUST be marked as a pistol. Building a pistol on a receiver marked as a rifle {via model number, name, etc} results in building an illegal class III SBR.

The Argent Dragon 04-28-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1695452)
Part kits are impossible,......

AIM Surplus has 'em for $63 per kit :

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/A...Parts_Kit.html

I'd call to make sure they're in stock. :s1:

CrufflerJJ 04-28-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1697820)
AIM Surplus has 'em for $63 per kit :

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/A...Parts_Kit.html

I'd call to make sure they're in stock. :s1:

AIM has always seemed pretty good about updating their website to reflect "out of stock" goodies. As I've said before, they're GOOD FOLKS.

Of course, they used to be even better when they had an open walk-in counter. Years ago, they even offered to share their (pizza) lunch with me when I was waiting for a BATF-Sluggish("Instant") check response on a weapon I was buying.

gangsta99 04-28-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1698281)
AIM has always seemed pretty good about updating their website to reflect "out of stock" goodies. As I've said before, they're GOOD FOLKS.

Of course, they used to be even better when they had an open walk-in counter. Years ago, they even offered to share their (pizza) lunch with me when I was waiting for a BATF-Sluggish("Instant") check response on a weapon I was buying.


I told Bryan I would bring everyone working there pizza if he would let me use the walk-in counter again. He says he still can't let us pick stuff up. Maybe I need to find out what is his favorite beer and throw in a 12 pack and I can get him to cave in.

tanner12oz 04-28-2009 02:24 PM

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theres some 16" complete bushmaster uppers at pkfirearms.com right now...have a few bells and whistles to them.....supposedly bravocompany is getting some completes in this week also....they have a alert list you can get on. they generally sell out in a couple minutes...just gotta get lucky

CrufflerJJ 04-28-2009 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gangsta99 (Post 1698296)
I told Bryan I would bring everyone working there pizza if he would let me use the walk-in counter again. He says he still can't let us pick stuff up. Maybe I need to find out what is his favorite beer and throw in a 12 pack and I can get him to cave in.

Keep working on him! I'll even throw in some powdered chipotle pepper for their pizzas, being the nice guy that I am.:ok:

Posse Comitatus 04-28-2009 06:34 PM

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Thinking about this lower.Back burner project.To many lowers not enough uppers to be had.

SONJU Manufacturing Billet Lowers are made in the USA in Kalispell Montana.
7075T6 Construction
Hard Anodized Coating
Colored Safe/Fire Selector Markings
Billet quality fit and finish

http://www.jtacsupply.com/images/pro...l/NewSonju.jpg

GoldWampum 04-28-2009 07:38 PM

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Thanks for all the info folks. I decided it was worth the spend. Meantime all 100 sold in 24 hours. He's trying to get more.

GoldWampum 04-28-2009 07:43 PM

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btw: more info.

Quote:

The Stripped Receivers are Fully Machined, Black Anodized, and Marked FAR-15, Multi Caliber. They are made by Florida Arms Manufacturing Co. and accept all normal AR-15 parts. Only $135 each! Plus $15 shipping. There are no internal parts that come with the stripped receiver. It's just the receiver (But at a savings of about $65 IF you could get one! They normally sell for $190, but I am able to offer them at dealer price to our GCAmembers) All the other parts come in parts kits available from other sources.

tanner12oz 04-28-2009 09:30 PM

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im far from interested in tracking down pieces and buying everything but with stuff as crazy as it is now....you gotta do what you have to do.....not much sand left in the hourglass

mozkill 04-28-2009 09:34 PM

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Can someone describe what an upper and lower is for those of use who have no idea? Or post a link ?

CyberGold 04-30-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by meatman (Post 1696874)
your right make sure it says Pistol.

you can't even have a pistol upper in your home
unless you have a pistol lower laying around somewhere.

now you can make a SBR out of a none pistol lower but make sure you get a stamp

I would like to get this difference of opinion cleared up.
I bought the receiver directly from the SOT manufacturer and I specifically told him several times to mark the 4473 as a pistol because that is what I was buying it for. He used one of the new forms and marked it as a receiver not as a pistol. When I asked him why he said it gave me more flexibility - that I could still build a pistol if I wanted, or have a SBR built (by him of course) or a regular rifle. He said the old form didn't indicate a receiver so you needed to specify pistol in that case but this form has a check mark for a bare receiver. Reluctantly I accepted his expaination as he should know since he makes and sells them.

Where are you guys getting your interpetation that it has to be registered as a pistol on the 4473 ???

thanks

Satyr 04-30-2009 09:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mozkill (Post 1699027)
Can someone describe what an upper and lower is for those of use who have no idea? Or post a link ?

All of this info can be found with a google search, but here's a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15

http://www.bushmaster.com/anatomy_bushmaster.asp

Basically, the lower consists of the stock, grip, trigger, springs and pins, buffer tube and spring, and the magazine well. The upper is pretty much just the barrel, sights, bolt and bolt carrier, charging handle and the gas system. For the most part, all uppers and lowers can be mixed and and matched without any smithing.

tulsamal 04-30-2009 10:01 PM

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Where are you guys getting your interpetation that it has to be registered as a pistol on the 4473 ???
It doesn't. And the receiver doesn't have to say pistol on it. I can understand why a lot of people "feel better" when the receiver says Pistol. Just gives you that extra margin of error when you end up with some LEO that doesn't know the law.

Here's a copy of an ATF letter:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=122&t=245366

And a FAQ:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=122&t=266557

Gregg

CyberGold 05-01-2009 08:11 AM

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Thanks, I knew I had seen that letter somewhere and the FAQ is good to read.
Although it probably doesn't matter much, mine says 'multi caliber' instead of 5.56 or .223
Besides the receipt, I plan on taking closeup pictures with the receipt, with enough detail to show it has not been assembled - no thread or pin hole marks etc.

meatman 05-01-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberGold (Post 1703147)
Thanks, I knew I had seen that letter somewhere and the FAQ is good to read.
Although it probably doesn't matter much, mine says 'multi caliber' instead of 5.56 or .223
Besides the receipt, I plan on taking closeup pictures with the receipt, with enough detail to show it has not been assembled - no thread or pin hole marks etc.

make sure you bring all paper work with you where ever you go with the pistol

or just buy a pistol marked lower.

I have 2 SBR and a suppressor hate having to bring paper work with me
but with the SBR and Suppressor I have no chioce

you do have a choice with a pistol just get a lower marked for pistol
building one right now just waiting for my 7.5' upper

did not know you could take a new lower and make it a pistol but still a lot of paper work and trusting then ATF


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tulsamal 05-01-2009 03:53 PM

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you do have a choice with a pistol just get a lower marked for pistol
building one right now just waiting for my 7.5' upper

did not know you could take a new lower and make it a pistol but still a lot of paper work and trusting then ATF
If you can get your choice of lowers for the same price, then I agree that getting a pistol marked one is desirable. But there were companies selling regular AR lowers for $125 and "special ones marked pistol" for $179. I'm not playing that game.

When I built my AMD65 pistol, I could get a receiver either way for the same price. So I got one marked pistol. If I wanted to build an AR pistol and all I could get were "regular" ones with no markings, I would build the pistol and not worry about it. As long as it has never been built as a rifle, it can start out its life being a pistol instead!

Gregg

AZLiberty 05-03-2009 02:22 AM

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These days anything under $150 is a good deal, 6 months ago it would have been $99.


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